God Lives Underwater Forum

yeah if this is true, that's actually pretty cool. I can dig it.

i really don think sp wiill be getting back together n-e time soon... well , i could be wrong...

As far as I know Billy Corgan is NOT on the album. I know one person who is and it was not Corgan. There will be more than one so it may be right.

NO offense Silver but good..... I also hate Billy Corgan.....

I've never been a huge Pumpkins fan, but I think Corgan has an interesting voice that could at least have potential when used with some great songs.

:::troy:::

You know I don't like him either. He is Mr. Self Rigtheous. He is the typical Atheist that screams out against God. True Atheist could care less. I guess I am just sick of his rebel against rock, self important, attitude. Other than maybe 3 or 4 songs, the rest of their albums are filler.

Bring on the flames. I got my flame suit on.

I guess you have your Oveglove on.....

machine609 wrote:As far as I know Billy Corgan is NOT on the album. I know one person who is and it was not Corgan. There will be more than one so it may be right.

So (I guess without naming the person) is the person that you know of good?

I hope so..... *crosses fingers*

machine609 wrote:You know I don't like him either. He is Mr. Self Rigtheous. He is the typical Atheist that screams out against God. True Atheist could care less. I guess I am just sick of his rebel against rock, self important, attitude. Other than maybe 3 or 4 songs, the rest of their albums are filler.

Bring on the flames. I got my flame suit on.

here come the flames my friend:

1. atheist? where have you been? after his mother died and then 6 years later when he broke up with his l;ong time g/f (that photographer lady he saw after he divorced his drug-addicted wife) he got back into the religion he grew up with, christianity, thats why zwanb's cd is called mary star of the sea because hge was lookin for meaning and trying to find love and support and un-alienation from stuff and to reconnect in a way... if you read his blogs then you'll get it, but anyway after the ppl in zwan #### him over (i mean it goes both ways but seeing how it unfolded i really do cut him some slack)
- and seeing how the osbournes tried to make him into this scowling cold worse-than-trent-rezonr-egomaniac, i understan d why he disconnected, b/c he was getting attacked and yeah i'd bitch back at ppl who were trying to destroy s.p. sharon osbourne should have never been s.p.'s manager i can understnad why billy called her a pig, she's less than that i mean cmon look she's such a sell out just like ozzy, anyway...
- maybe you are thinking of the 1995 biullly when all this songs were about pain and disconnectedness and against god, seein ghow in 1994 his relationship with his wife deteriorated vastly and his mpother had died so yeah if that had happened to me i'd write a double album about how much i hated everything tooo. i guess you never listened to machina part II, released online in 2000 eh? you have some catching up to do with your image of how billy is.

also zwans cds show his different state of mind meoedically, and lyrically.. and then THeFutureEmbrace is miles away from that 1995 damaged billy... ohhh man, go read online dammit i cant explain everything to you, use your ears a little bit itll prove my point...


plus i recommend: (go on limewire or napster or something)
-silverfu*k/silvercrank (on vieuphoria)
- pistachio medley (all instrumental mosaic off of the Aeroplane Flys High Boxed set)
- mouths of babes (zero ep extended)
- cash car star (track 5 or 8 or something on part 1 of machina part 2), white spider (the 18th mp3 track or so, or err 3 to last track on the machina part 2 album)
- honestly (zwan mary star of the sea) def. a diff. state of mind there. i personally dislike that song.
-mina loy (MOH), the camera eye & A100 (on TheFutureEmbrace)

INDICA

That's Pastichio miss superfan. I love the Pumpkins but I still haven't heard Machina II. They're finally available to download all in one place but they're large files on a server that doesn't allow resumable downloads so I'm SOL. Then again, I hated Machina, so I don't have much hope for Machina II.

adore and machina blow, but machina II is pretty rockin.i dig the cash car star, saturnine, white spider (kicks @ss), etc the demo version of, oh man i dont remember what its called, its track 3 on the side 1 of machina II (there are 4 sides since there are only 25 copies of the printed vinyl in existence, and it is 2 discs per set. so the mp3s are labeled accordingly)

you can download machina II from a number of sp sites including billy-corgan.com i think.

Crank you wasted alot of space trying to defend him, he is still a self important cocky person and no matter how long a response you type I am not going to like him. His personal life makes no bearing on how he is perceived to me. If he has an attitude then he has an attitude. Period. I do like some of their songs but the majority of it just filler.

Atheist, yeah I guess I am talking about things like "Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness And cleanliness is godliness, and god is empty just like me"

or maybe this

"We all want to hold in the everlasting gaze Enchanted in the rapture of his sentimental sway
But underneath the wheels lie the skulls of every c.o.g.
The fickle fascination of an everlasting god" so if he is not an Atheist then he has one really weird way of saying he is a Christian. His songs are laoded with with these types of things.

Before anyone attacks me I am an Atheist, I am just making a point, nothing else.

Fiveliter302 wrote:

machine609 wrote:As far as I know Billy Corgan is NOT on the album. I know one person who is and it was not Corgan. There will be more than one so it may be right.

So (I guess without naming the person) is the person that you know of good?

Hmmmm I am going to ask for permission before I say anything. I really don't know about this singer truthfully, I am not into them but David really liked them alot.

I wish the album would come out soon. I am so ready to hear the tracks after production and mastering. I heard that so far it is awesome.