addressing the pink elephant in the room

[Lord Nikon]

so i think it's time we ask ourselves this.

Is Wired All Wrong better than God Lives Underwater?

I think there are two types of GLU fans. There are the David fans, and there are the Jeff fans.

I think the David fans fell in love with GLU's intriguing lyrics and haunting rythims. while the Jeff fans fell in love with the heavy metal aspect and the electronica music.

Now i love David Reilly with all my heart, he is and has always been a part of me, but if i have to choose...i am a Jeff Turzo fan.

I love WaW's over-the-top extreme natured music, with all the techno-influenced sounds and the high energy, in-your-face vocals.

so i guess what this question comes down to is: Which direction is the better for GLU to travel in.

on the left we have David Reilly and Fluzee
on the right we have Jeff Turzo and Wired All Wrong
which side is your favorite?


disclamer: i'm not trying to stir up trouble, and i'm certainly not saying one is better than the other, i just think it's an interesting phenominon to discuss.

[asamorris]

it really depends on my mood.

I prefer "keep Dreaming" to "Let me go",
but I also prefer "medicate" to "here we go now"

i don't know. I cast my vote for fluzee, just because i have had more time with them and their recordings.

[blass]

A Turzo fan here. The electronics is what drove my love for GLU. The songwriting was great too, but the electronics are so unique sounding, almost like a "grunge" electronica.

[Fiveliter302]

Both. Sorry. Can't choose. They are completely different but both equally as good in their own way.

[gthesob]

I never thought of GLU by it's parts, only by the whole. I don't know who did what and I don't care. I'm not familar with WAW yet, so I can't compare them to Reilly's solo work, myspace streams are unusable on dial-up.

[gludude]

personally i feel this is blasphemy. but i'm biased so i guess i dont count... if how humans R comes out and jeff does a solo then u can put em head to head... i'm pretty sure that i'll dig both but if i had to pick between seeing dave solo and seeing WAW i'd pick dave 10 times out of 10!!

[blogbourri]

How's this for an assholish answer: I don't really care for either apart from the other. Mass Hystereo? Boring, centerless techno-wank. Fluzee? Sounds like crap recorded through a dish rag. Give me LITSCSA or UOTF, and I'm in heaven.

The sound clips of WAW I heard did nothing for me. Sorry, but it's true.

-Devin.

[Vertigo]

If this is a pink elephant, than apparently you are a simple minded assbag.

Music has qualities to be enjoyed in the case of different mindsets. So, to simply say that one is better than the other is pretensious at best.

I will stear clear of this one.

[aWG]

I absolutely love the metal/electronica stuff. However, only half of the WAW album is like that. I'd say I'd choose the heavier WAW songs over David's solo stuff, but I'd prefer David's solo stuff over the more "pop-ish" WAW songs.

[Lord Nikon]

If this is a pink elephant, than apparently you are a simple minded assbag.

Music has qualities to be enjoyed in the case of different mindsets. So, to simply say that one is better than the other is pretensious at best.

I will stear clear of this one.

i'm not saying one is better than the other, i'm inquiring what kinds of music people here prefer. it's a simple 'getting-to-know-you' thread that shares a theme we're all familiar with.


...dick

[asamorris]

play nice boys.

[Lord Nikon]

play nice boys.

you're right

i apologize

[drewmcgee]

so i think it's time we ask ourselves this.

Is Wired All Wrong better than God Lives Underwater?

I think there are two types of GLU fans. There are the David fans, and there are the Jeff fans.

I think the David fans fell in love with GLU's intriguing lyrics and haunting rythims. while the Jeff fans fell in love with the heavy metal aspect and the electronica music.

Now i love David Reilly with all my heart, he is and has always been a part of me, but if i have to choose...i am a Jeff Turzo fan.

I love WaW's over-the-top extreme natured music, with all the techno-influenced sounds and the high energy, in-your-face vocals.

so i guess what this question comes down to is: Which direction is the better for GLU to travel in.

on the left we have David Reilly and Fluzee
on the right we have Jeff Turzo and Wired All Wrong
which side is your favorite?


disclamer: i'm not trying to stir up trouble, and i'm certainly not saying one is better than the other, i just think it's an interesting phenominon to discuss.

gotta disagree with some of your assumptions regarding david and jeff and what they each brought to the music of GLU.

it's an oversimplification to say that david had the "intriguing lyrics" and "haunting rhythms" and that jeff had the "metal" and "techno" aspects.

it may be easy to come to these conclusions, based on their post-glu music, but it surely isn't true.
every aspect of the music was a joint effort. jeff wrote many lyrics, and dave could write metal riffs that were even hard for ME to play (and i'm pretty sure i was the "metal dude" in the band, who was supposed to have no prob. w/the riffs.)

without a doubt, they had their differences musically, but the melding of melody, electronic music, and hard riffs, was a passion they both held very close.

the fact that david's post-glu music had a different production asthetic than that of glu was, i believe, a deliberate artistic break towards something different than glu, and really for david, an essential thing for him to do at that time in his life.

were it not for david's untimely passing, i am absolutely certain that david and jeff would have continued their artistic collaborations, and i'm also certain that those collaborations would put to rest any debate on "the pink elephant in the room" insofar as their different influences for GLU.

their musical ideas were, to quote Public Enemy (as we did all the friggin' time back then) "brothers of the same mind - unblind". and so, i prefer to think of their VERY deep musical connection with one another, rather than any differences.

-drew

[Lord Nikon]

oh dude totally, i'm not trying to cause any waves or anything like that - just makin conversation. I was really bored in u.s. history and i got to thinkin bout this

no offense TO ANYONE

[blass]

gotta disagree with some of your assumptions regarding david and jeff and what they each brought to the music of GLU.

it's an oversimplification to say that david had the "intriguing lyrics" and "haunting rhythms" and that jeff had the "metal" and "techno" aspects.

it may be easy to come to these conclusions, based on their post-glu music, but it surely isn't true.
every aspect of the music was a joint effort. jeff wrote many lyrics, and dave could write metal riffs that were even hard for ME to play (and i'm pretty sure i was the "metal dude" in the band, who was supposed to have no prob. w/the riffs.)

without a doubt, they had their differences musically, but the melding of melody, electronic music, and hard riffs, was a passion they both held very close.

the fact that david's post-glu music had a different production asthetic than that of glu was, i believe, a deliberate artistic break towards something different than glu, and really for david, an essential thing for him to do at that time in his life.

were it not for david's untimely passing, i am absolutely certain that david and jeff would have continued their artistic collaborations, and i'm also certain that those collaborations would put to rest any debate on "the pink elephant in the room" insofar as their different influences for GLU.

their musical ideas were, to quote Public Enemy (as we did all the friggin' time back then) "brothers of the same mind - unblind". and so, i prefer to think of their VERY deep musical connection with one another, rather than any differences.

-drew

Good points. They were both really musical geniuses. I hope people 50 years from now recognize these two musicians as being unbelievably ahead of the times.

With David's passing, it may never be the case that Jeff reaches astronomical recognition, but I'm willing to bet that in the future, much music is going to be eerily similar to these guys music.

In other words, these guys recognized the future direction of music and innovated the progression into that direction.